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God, I hope this works.

I have been trying to reply to individual comments, and apologise individually, and I have not been able to get a reply to post, so, although I know I should apologise to each of you individually, I am going to have to place this in the post itself.

I'm sorry.  I can say that I'm very tired and stressed, which I am, but the truth is -- I was rude and out of line, and I put my foot in it.  I'm sorry.


Hi there. *waves* I've just been through the available DW layouts, and I hate them all, except for some that I merely don't like. Way too much empty space (eek, it looks like the new LJ comments pages!), colours that bother my eyes, strange all-cappiness, etc. Unfortunately, although I have mad skillz in some areas, I don't know how to do custom styles or css, and I have a bit too much on my plate to attempt to learn it right now.

Instead, I'm going to be terribly shabby and shallow and try to bribe someone to help me.

On LJ, I used the following layouts:

Bluetiful, a Components theme, on
[livejournal.com profile] lolmac
Desert Fire, a Minimalism theme, on
[livejournal.com profile] bethinexile
Writer's Block Powder, an Expressive theme, on
[livejournal.com profile] macgyverdeleted
"rdadailylayout", a customised version of Smooth Sailing, on
[livejournal.com profile] rda_daily

I will give a year's Paid account DW points to anyone who can do a reasonable replica of these layouts (a year's time for each layout). If you're able to make the layout available to DW generally, I'll be especially happy, because that will hopefully gladden the hearts of more refugees.

Date: 2011-12-23 08:06 pm (UTC)
branchandroot: oak against sky (Default)
From: [personal profile] branchandroot
Word of advice. It might be easier to get someone who designs on DW to do what you want if you don't start by roundly insulting all the previous work we've done. That's not the kind of approach that makes me, for one, feel terribly obliging, and most of us follow this comm. If you don't like those styles, fine, that's your taste. But putting it in "omg so dreadful, hate them all, compare them to LJ" terms? Really doesn't put me, at least, in a friendly or welcoming mood.

That said, while I'm not about to offer to design a replica after that kind of start, I would be willing to submit a similar layout I've been holding on to for a while. It's loosely designed to match Component. The layout queue (as opposed to the themes queue) is a bit backed up, though. You'll see it as a standard style a lot faster if you signal boost the need for a few more people to patch layouts (instructions on [site community profile] dreamscapes).

Date: 2011-12-23 08:40 pm (UTC)
musyc: Silver flute resting diagonally across sheet music (Default)
From: [personal profile] musyc
Yeeeeeeeeah. *gestures at whole first paragraph* And all I do is themes. I'm not particularly fond of a few I did, but I didn't do them for my taste. I did them for people who need bright colors or who like yellow or who need low contrast, etc etc.

OP: "None of the layouts fit my needs or preferences, could someone help me?" - You'd likely get a half-dozen offers.
"All of the layouts and colors are ugly!" - Not so much with the willingness to help.

Date: 2011-12-23 08:49 pm (UTC)
ninetydegrees: Art: self-portrait (Default)
From: [personal profile] ninetydegrees
Thank you for speaking up, branchandroot.

Date: 2011-12-23 08:56 pm (UTC)
ldybastet: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ldybastet
I think there's some kind of disconnect at work... So the thought that the users here are really *that* involved in the site's design and code and everything to be the actual designers of the themes and layouts is really, really foreign to them, and that they'd run into them here a strange concept. Maybe... *frowns*

But yeah, bribing would work better if the people one wants to bribe aren't first insulted.

Date: 2011-12-23 09:00 pm (UTC)
ninetydegrees: Art: self-portrait (Default)
From: [personal profile] ninetydegrees
Ignorance isn't an excuse. I don't think insulting *anybody* when asking for help or implying that all DW users have such poor taste because the styles are all "ucking fugly" is the way to go.

Date: 2011-12-23 09:08 pm (UTC)
ldybastet: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ldybastet
No, I know. I wasn't trying to imply that. I'm sorry that it came across like that. :( I was just thinking it might be an example of just how different we are here from over there? I apologise for bad wording. :(

Starting off by insulting everything that has been created by you all is definitely not how to do this.

Date: 2011-12-23 09:15 pm (UTC)
ninetydegrees: Art: self-portrait (flowers)
From: [personal profile] ninetydegrees
My bad, ldybastet! We've only had a few posts like this here, and never in this community I believe, but they always make too edgy and it's like I have claws out all of a sudden. My apologies.

Fun fact: yesterday I saw a post on Latest Things saying that all DW layouts were clunky and they missed Generator. It really is to each their own. *g*

Date: 2011-12-23 09:26 pm (UTC)
musyc: Silver flute resting diagonally across sheet music (Default)
From: [personal profile] musyc
Generator? That's *seriously* old school!

Date: 2011-12-23 09:27 pm (UTC)
ninetydegrees: Art: self-portrait (Default)
From: [personal profile] ninetydegrees
Isn't it? It made me smile. For the record, I think they had settled on a minimal version of Crisped.

Date: 2011-12-23 09:36 pm (UTC)
musyc: Silver flute resting diagonally across sheet music (Default)
From: [personal profile] musyc
And now I'm trying to think of what would be pretty close to Generator. XD Blanket might be a good one, to get the single column effect, or Basic Boxes for that straight/crisp grid look.

Date: 2011-12-23 10:00 pm (UTC)
ninetydegrees: Art: self-portrait (Default)
From: [personal profile] ninetydegrees
*nods* Negatives or Transmo might work too.

Date: 2011-12-23 09:30 pm (UTC)
ldybastet: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ldybastet
It's okay! I understand completely! No need to apologise! You were just being insulted here! LOL

They miss... Generator? *tilts head* Okay! LOL Now, that is a layout I'd call clunky!

Date: 2011-12-23 09:34 pm (UTC)
ninetydegrees: Art: self-portrait (Default)
From: [personal profile] ninetydegrees
I think what they meant was that most styles are presented with sidebars and lots of modules and they just wanted their entries an a few links at the top, which you can do but maybe they didn't realize that.

Date: 2011-12-23 09:40 pm (UTC)
ldybastet: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ldybastet
Ah. That's probably true! *nods* I can sort of understand their thinking. It really does depend so much on how we use the site, doesn't? :)

Date: 2011-12-24 05:20 am (UTC)
lorax: Text Icon Reading "I hate good wizards in fairy tales.  They always turn out to be him." (DW - Text "Hate Good Wizards")
From: [personal profile] lorax
Generator is still pretty much The Norm over on IJ most of the time, so that might be why they're missing it, too?

Date: 2012-12-06 07:53 pm (UTC)
rabies: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rabies
I know it's been about a year since you posted this, but I was looking to match my LJ style over here, and what I use there is Component. Could you possibly help me, please?

Date: 2012-12-06 09:35 pm (UTC)
branchandroot: oak against sky (Default)
From: [personal profile] branchandroot
That style has gone live, now, so hopefully it'll be easy! The name of it is Librarian's Dream, and it has a bunch of themes live too. The colors are all user-adjustable, so if it looks close-ish to what you want, I'd recommend choosing one of those and going to the Organize > Customize Layout page to tweak the colors and margins to your preference.

Date: 2012-12-06 10:15 pm (UTC)
rabies: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rabies
Thank you so much!

Date: 2012-12-13 12:08 am (UTC)
rabies: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rabies
One other question, I've gotten this layout to do pretty much everything that I wanted to do, but I can't get my background image to show up. I'm not using any custom CSS, just trying to use the layout's setup to do so.

Date: 2012-12-13 12:21 am (UTC)
branchandroot: oak against sky (Default)
From: [personal profile] branchandroot
Hmm, yeah that looks like a bug. Your image is in there, but #canvas has a background color that's covering it up. If you want to do this through the wizard, you might try deleting the canvas color (I think that's an option, it's been a while since I looked). Or you could add:

#canvas { background: transparent; }

to the Custom CSS box.

Date: 2012-12-13 12:22 am (UTC)
branchandroot: oak against sky (Default)
From: [personal profile] branchandroot
Wait, no, wait, it's going to be more complicated than that. *frowns* Let me poke at this. I'm going to have to put a bug in on it, so there won't be an instant fix, but I think I know what needs to happen.

Date: 2012-12-13 01:38 am (UTC)
rabies: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rabies
No worries on how fast. Thank you for checking into it for me! I thought I was going crazy.

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