transmogrified link/reply question

[kaigou]

I've noticed that as long as a post has no replies, the "link" option is visible. As soon as someone replies, the "link"/"reply" options disappear, and are replaced with "reply"/"# replies" instead. That makes me go through three additional steps if I want to be able to link to a post, then, because I don't always want to link to the replies or even to the reply option -- I just want to link to the post.

Does anyone know if this is something that'll be fixed in the next code/style push, or if it's a setting I can adjust on my own?

Comments

[foxfirefey]

Yeah, I'm kind of not a fan of that either, but I think the decision was made to make the title into the link--in all Core2 S2 styles, entry subject titles should be a plain link to the post.

[kaigou]

For the purposes of accessibility, I'd argue there's no reason you can't do both.

[foxfirefey]

I agree!

[foxfirefey]

Maybe submit this to dw_suggestions?

[tyger]

...I don't know about you, but when I click '[x] comment[s]', it functions the same as the 'link' link - did that to see the comments here, and I got /6221.html

So, personally, not seeing the problem. Perhaps it's layout-dependant? 'm using Transmogrified.

[kaigou]

Whether the link works or not isn't the issue; it's the accessibility of not changing the menu from one screen (no comments) to the next (with comments).

Yes, the comments links get you to the page, but when the link option serves a specific purpose: it creates a link that looks like this:

http://user.dreamwidth.org/

as opposed to the comments link, which looks like this:
...dreamwidth.org/303181.html?nc=2#comments
and opens the post at the top-most comment (not the body of the post).

or the comment-on-this link, which gives you a link like this:
...dreamwidth.org/303181.html?mode=reply
and opens the post already jumped down to the reply box.

Neither of those options creates a clean link for when all you want is the post and all comments visible, with top-of-post as top-of-page. If the post's title creates this link, then why have this appearing/disappearing option in the first place?

That's what I meant by accessibility. It's not that it's broken, per se -- it's that it works, but not nearly as well as it could.

[tyger]

No, no, what I was saying is I get the clean link when I click on the comments link, not the [blah]#comments page. So, uh. Yeah.
If it's the appearing/disappearing link link, I can kinda get you on style issues; there definitely should be an always display option, just like there should be an always display even when 0 comments option for the comments link. But in terms of functionality, it's the same, so.

[nostariel]

Most people get the [blah]#comments when they click on the comments link, which is good as that's the intended functionality. If you're not getting that, something has gone wrong somewhere and you should probably report it to Support so they can fix it.

[tyger]

...huh! Eh, it's prolly Safari being a 'tard, then, it Does Not Like bits and pieces of LJ/IJ/DW code. ^^;;